Friday, February 23, 2007

FOR BEER DRINKERS ONLY!

i know how y'all feel about jimmuh - but credit must be given where credit is due.

on october 14, 1978, jimmuh cawtuh, a somewhat former president of these disunited states, signed into law "HR1377", whereby prohibition was nipped in the red nose.

because of the lack of substance in the news we've been forced to watch other, somewhat more interesting programs out of our 120 channel cable line-up.

while watching the history channel this morning - programming included moonshining, bootlegging and a special on home brewing. this is when i found out about our aforementioned former, somewhat potus, link to homebrewing BEER!

it seems dan quayle didn't much cotton to the idea - but, hey - he cannot even spell potato, so wouldn't even know or care how to make vodka!

one must wonder if billy had anything to do with this...

45 comments:

Farmer John said...

It was either this or have to pardon him...

The Merry Widow said...

FJ-:snert"
Nanc-It's awful hard for us humans to be perfect about anything, much less everything. So that was jimmah cahtah's one misstep into history as the most useless former president?

tmw

nanc said...

nah - that appears to be the only decent thing he ever did!

Steve Harkonnen said...

Billy beer was like pabst blue ribbon. Watered down beer.

Farmer John said...

Natty Boh, anyone?

Farmer John said...

...it has that genuine "bath-tub beer" taste.

nanc said...

my mom has a six pack (full and intact) of "billy beer" and thinks it will be worth some money someday.

Mr. Beamish the Kakistocrat said...

Moonshine. The original Mountain Dew.

My great uncle's thump barrel sour apple cider'll make you squint so hard your eyeballs will bruise.

God rest his soul. He got struck by lightning while fishing in a thunderstorm. Knocked 'em deader than a doorstop. Ruined the fish too.

Farmer John said...

Hmmm. Home-brewed beer. I think I know just what I need to do it! Yahoo! Seriously!

Anonymous said...

farmer - nancpop keeps saying he needs one kit for each day of the week and an extra just in case...

nanc

Farmer John said...

It's all in the bubbles...

nanc said...

i'm glad to see all the beer drinkers uniting!

BenOsilly said...

one must wonder if billy had anything to do with this...

What is it cops say these days? "There`s no such thing as circumstance or chance or accidents or....whats the word I`m looking for..or maybe that was Derwood Kirby sed dat.

tazzmax said...

My old boss back in Missouri had a 6 pack of "billy slop", and he thought it'd be worth something someday,....Ha!

I laughed and told him he might as well keep it,.....I sure as hell wouldn't drink that slop.

That's been over 20 years ago, and I'd bet it's turned into vinegar by now.

tazzmax said...

When you're out of Miller, you're out of beer,...except for Nancs' "snob beer".

nanc said...

hey now!

Always On Watch Two said...

My sides hurt! Mr. Beamish's comment! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm allergic to beer, but not to moonshine. Seriously. Go figure.

FLORIAN said...

Jimmah Cawtuh's moonshine was probably what got Ted Turner started into Alcoholism. My brother in law loves Carter because of this law--he makes his own home-brew though it's no Samuel Adams. I hate watered down beer.

nanc said...

flo - we have an acquaintance who makes the sweetest honey ales - no bloating, no kidding!

Mr. Beamish the Kakistocrat said...

AOW,

I prefer sippin' shots of whiskey to beer as well.

But I had to stop doing that instead of beer a long time ago.

Woke up one morning behind the wheel of my car in my driveway not remembering ever leaving the bar.

I figured I'll get no luckier than that so my nights of excessive drinking became fewer and fewer. I'm down to allowing myself a drunken stupor 4 times a year.

Last year, I only used 2 of them, so I have some escrow for emergencies.

nanc said...

ESCROWWWWWWWWW!!!

dayam - i wish i'd thought of that...

booboo said...

i bought a "jar" of shine once. Whew, I`m like beamish except I ended up in someone else`s driveway. Or was that a drive-thru....

nanc said...

tazz - daddio has some great photos and a video up at his site, but they all have a blue tinge to them - he said he was under the influence of a friend of mine - "labatt's"!

and i thought they were viagra induced!

nanc said...

boo-boo?

someone gave nancpop a 1/2 quart jar of moonshine when he was in mississippi a few years ago - one of his workers said he'd give him fifteen bucks for it, so he took it and went and bought a bottle of beam!

tazzmax said...

Labatts,....yuck.

Moonshine,... I used to get it from "Lonzo" when I was a dumb-ass teen ager in Ar.......Wow, otherwise, we had to go to Mo. state line to get beer,....and we went there often!

"Been there, done that".

tazzmax said...

One time when I was about 16, I copped a quart of my moms' plum juice,{for her jelly}, and I put some yeast in it and let it ferment for a week or so,.....I slipped it to school, and me and "ole Henry", my best friend, got drunk, along with a couple of other friends! Hee, hee!

Warren said...

The trouble with drinking "shine" is you don't know what your drinking.

The best you can do in a low tech still is about 86 proof and most shine is somewhere around 80. Shine isn't aged in wooden barrels, or really even aged for that matter, so the raw alcohol burns your throat like a SOB, if it doesn't choke you. Of course, if you get past the first couple of swallows you don't have much problem getting the rest down.

Where the real problem comes in is that copper is expensive so moonshiners have been known to use radiators out of old cars and trucks for distillation coils. The antifreeze residue left in the radiators tends to sweeten and mellow the shine out, (as it destroys your liver), and the lead solder they use to hold radiators together give you lead poisoning.

Then there is always the interesting question; what kind of containers are they storing the shine in?

Insecticide, lacquer thinner, who knows?

I had a friend that got zinc poisoning because his daddy ran off a bunch of shine in zinc lined gallon cans. Zinc poisoning is almost identical with lead poisoning.

Moonshiners have also been know to add wood alcohol to raise the poof 10 or 15 points to get a better price.

Ever see anyone poisoned from wood alcohol? They go blind and have crippling stomach cramps. My grandfather went into laughing hysterics and they tied him in bed. He almost died from drinking somebody else's product.

Warren said...

Old man Gibbs was cooking shine, mostly for his own consumption. He had the still hid up under his house in a root cellar with a dirt floor. Everyone knew he was doing it. He slopped his pigs with the sour mash left over after he cooked out the alcohol.

Of course, the dead give away was the hundred pounds of sugar he bought several times a year.

He had a really high poof product. The trick is to watch the heat. If you get it too hot, either you loose alcohol or boil the water and dilute it. Not enough heat and your wasting your time.

He rigged up a natural gas burner under his still and kept and eye on the thermometer. You can imagine what a pain in the patoote it is to try and regulate the heat with a wood fire.

Unfortunately for him, he was sampling some of his product and fell asleep, (passed out), he never woke up. Carbon monoxide!

Mr. Beamish the Kakistocrat said...

Yes, Nanc. Escrow!

Sometimes doing something you'll regret later takes a lot of planning :)

Farmer John said...

After Warren's story about Old Man Gibbs, I think I'll throw out the old radiator and go put a case of Natty Boh in escrow.

nanc said...

dang! i left a long comment to warren last night and it vaporized - must've been the grain...

Always On Watch Two said...

Mr. Beamish,
I prefer sippin' shots of whiskey to beer as well.

But I had to stop doing that instead of beer a long time ago.

Woke up one morning behind the wheel of my car in my driveway not remembering ever leaving the bar.


Well, I've never done that.

I like brandy--the good stuff--and Southern Comfort with orange juice. As hot toddies, if you will.

At the moment, I'm into some fruity wine. Just one small glass every night. Doctor's orders, no less.

Gayle said...

Jimmy Carter did something good? Who knew?

Personally, I don't like beer unless I'm painting. Don't ask why, because I don't have a clue, but painting the inside walls of a house is the only time I drink beer. We don't have it in the house, so whenever I get ready to paint, I go buy a six-pack. I know it's rather wierd, but it's true.

booboo said...

gayle- maybe it`s being indoors, confined area mixed with paint "air"

kuhnkat said...

Actually, I am not a beer drinker and, believe it is a short term FAD that will eventually go away as the imbibers GROW UP!!!

That said, I noticed Warren made a mistatement about RAW ALCOHOL burning the throat!!! As a past connosewer of EVERCLEAR (193 proof), I must say that RAW ALCOHOL is quite smooth and virtually TASTELESS!!!

At a party I threw a couple of friends were pouring SHOTS from a 1.75 liter bottle of EVERCLEAR they found in the back of the cabinet!!! I didn't notice immediately cause no one was coughing or spluttering. They were suddenly falling down drunk!!!

As the bathrooms were upstairs it was a PROBLEM!!!!

The burning is from the impurities and other trash that is put in the MASH and not filtered out!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I used to be very fond of EVERCLEAR!! You could mix it with ANYTHING due to the lack of smell and taste!! I would also mention that most of the HANGOVERS are NOT from the actual alcohol!! Again, it is primarily from the IMPURITIES!!

I found out the old fashioned way that the expensive OAK BARREL AGED whiskeys caused more of a hangover than pure alcohol!! Same for SCOTCH and GRAPE products!!

nanc said...

geeeez, kuhnkat - i just took the beer habit up here about four years ago! dang, you mean i'm going to outgrow this?

i thought everclear and moonshine were two different things?

booboo? paint does go better with beer. but the converse cannot be said.

kuhnkat said...

nanc,

unless you are calling WOOD ALCOHOL "shine" the ACTIVE ingredients in "shine" and everclear are the SAME!!

Basically, all DRINKABLE shine or spirits contain ethanol. Methyl alcohol (WOOD alcohol, methanol) is POISONOUS and IS where shine got its bad name. Of course, only people with a death wish or who don't care about their customers produce it for consumption!! Yup, it is where the stories about going blind and dying come from. Typical "shine" is NOT methyl alcohol as the customers typically are not REPEAT!!

Methyl alcohol is also added to ethanol to create Methylated spirits which are used for medicinal purposes.

I repeat, Methyl Alcohol IS A POISON AND WILL PROBABLY KILL YOU!!

And yes, I know, there ARE people stupid enough to KNOWINGLY drink IT!!! There are also people stupid enough to sniff glue, inject methamphetamine...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol

PS: I hear it takes YEARS to outgrow the beer habit. Of course, some people NEVER grow up!!!

Farmer John said...

He's right. Once they reach a "certain age" they start to grow OUT, not UP.

FLORIAN said...

Methyl alcohol Kuhnkat is what those Russians use in their vodka right? Isn't that why I read about 2 or 3 articles a year about dozens of Russians dying from moonshined vodka?

Kelly said...

Speakin of jimmah cahtah...we used to sing a song when I was a kid... to the tune of Oscar Myer.

Oh, my President has a first name,
It's J I M M Y.
My President has a second name,
It's C A R T E R.

[several lines forgotten]

'Cause JIMMY CARTER has a way,
of messin' up the USA.


And speaking of beer, I remember seeing an old moonshine still when I was living in Virginia.

Can't say that I ever had a beer.

American Crusader said...

It's a shame that most vodka makers use grain instead of potatoes now.
Teton Glacier Potato Vodka (highly recommended) is the only one produced in America. Luksusowa is also excellent and is produced in Poland.

nanc said...

phew, kuhnkat...

kell - you's a good girl!

a.c. - we rarely if ever drink any hard liquor and all but gave it up nearly five years ago in lieu of the snob beer habit...and don't drink enough of that to catch a buzz, but then again, i don't really want one - i just like the taste of a couple of ice cold beers in my frosty mug with a slice of lemon or lime! we do, however, like a glass of cabernet once in a great while with red meat.

nanc said...

p.s. - i think farmer's winding down from his party...finally - who knew a fifty year old man would have such stamina? well, besides mrs. farmer...

Farmer John said...

Yep, I finally ran out of beer. Know where I can find some fermenting berries?

Kelly said...

Speaking of beer drinkers...see my latest blog entry. 3-2-07