Tuesday, May 02, 2006

carna(n)c the not so great predictor

upon reading a great article at democracy frontline this morning by our felis, my linkster at Democracy Frontline, i began a search for information. have you ever gone searching for a particular item only to come across a better and entirely different item? it happened to me.

benjamin disraeli quotes--a treasure trove of quotes!

for those who do not know who disraeli was, he was the first jewish/british prime minister in england in 1868 and again from 1874-1880, under the rule of queen victoria. as i was perusing his quotes, they began to remind me of some of our regular and irregular blogging friends and foes. there will be those who disagree with his politics, but he was spot on in some of his comments.

as you may have guessed, i am going to place a disraeli quote(s) with a blogger in out community who may be the person saying it today. should prove fun and if you believe someone's quote in unsuitable, please feel free to expound.

my favorite disraeli exchange was between him and queen victoria, as she asked, "mr. prime minister, what evidence can you give me of the existence of God?" to which he replied, "the jew, your majesty." short and sweet.

the first i have given to myself and the rest will be alphabetical so you will not think i'm playing favorites as i don't play favorites...well, i play favorites - i just don't want you to know WHO my favorites are! add your own for those i've missed.

all emphasis mine throughout.

nanc to myself - "to be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step to knowledge."

a.c. - "because it's my blog!" wait, disraeli didn't say that - sorry..."there is no wisdom like frankness." (aka: american crusader)

aow - "upon the education of the people of this country, the fate of this country depends."

aow - "youth is the trustee of prosperity."

aow - "diligence is the mother of good fortune."

beak - "on book reviews - books are fatal: they are the curse of the human race. nine-tenths of existing books are nonsense, and clever books are the refutation of that nonsense."

beak & beamish on communist/marxist dictators - "assasination has never changed the history of the world."

beamish to brownie - "jobrow [william gladstone] has not a single redeeming defect."

beamish to plucky - "he was distinguished for ignorance; for he had only one idea, and that was wrong."

beamish to the people - "i must follow the people. am i not their leader."

eyes - "like all travellers, i have seen more than i remember, and remember more than i've seen." (aka: eyesallaround)

farmer - "we should never lose an occasion. opportunity is more powerful even than conquerors and prophets."

fern - "liberals, cosmopolitan critics, men who are friends of every country save their own." (aka: freedomnow)

i.w. - "we live in an age when to be young and to be indifferent can be no longer synonymous. we must prepare for the coming hour. the claims of the future are represented by suffering millions; and the youth of a nation are the trustees of posterity." (aka: iran watch)

j.b. - "as a general rule, the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information." (aka: jeff bargholz)

jacob - "we are all born for love. it is the principle of existence, and its only end." (aka: iamaworm)

linkster - "you will find as you grow older that courage is the rarest of all qualities to be found in public life." (aka: felis)

madze - "there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." (aka: madzionist)

plucky to himself - "it destroys one's nerve to be amiable everyday to the same human being(s)" (aka: mr. ducky)

tmw - "amusement to an observing mind is study." (aka: the merry widow)

and last, but certainly not least by any means:

warren - "the greatest good you can do for another is not just share your riches, but reveal to him his own."

in his first speech - disraeli adamantly stated, "the time will come when you will hear me." oh, don't we know. thank you all for being a part of my first post!

139 comments:

beakerkin said...

This is good but I am mellowing Ducky only offered a mild post and JB didn't even fight.

Soon commies will be asking to be aborted.

nanc said...

check out the new hiney i ripped the brown one at beamish.

oh, and thanks for the compliment.

Anonymous said...

Brava!

Especially the originals!

-FJ

the merry widow said...

Wow, Nanc- Lotta work Foxy, very appropriate! Yes, humor the great stress reliever, and proof positive that G*D exists. After all, take a look around, we are a pretty funny world!

tmw

eyesallaround said...

Funny, I don't remember saying that... maybe I've got alzheimers! Or, maybe I said it post-Merlot. Hee, hee,,,

I do know that one of the reasons I believe in God is because of the Jews. What else could possibly explain the hatred evil people have had for them throughout history, in spite of the fact that they've been such a blessing? Only a the arch-enemy could inspire such hatred of God's people in his minions.

nanc said...

farmer - there was only one original!

hey, if i disappear for a little bit it's because i can see a monster storm approaching and will shut down - probably hit in texas before here. thanks eyes...

Iran Watch said...

I wish I was smart enough to come up with that quote nanc...maybe in another lifetime.

"assasination has never changed the history of the world."

How would we know? Who's to say what the world would be like if JFK or Lincoln had lived...or if Hitler had been assassinated?

Anonymous said...

Can I adopt a few quotes?

A sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity.

Be amusing: never tell unkind stories; above all, never tell long ones.

Every man has a right to be conceited until he is successful.

His shortcoming is his long staying.
(nothing implied!!!!)

and can I bequeath one to mr. ducky...

How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct.

-FJ

Anonymous said...

I know, I know, I SHOULD adopt a few of those quotes...

-FJ

nanc said...

i gave you one farmer! but if others suit you you may have them.

FLORIAN said...

Afternoon Nanc! How is everything in Arkansas? Hope no storm damage. I certainly hope they don't come my way as work might call me in!

nanc said...

great flo - had a cell move through a couple of hours ago - thought i may have to take cover! now it's muggy and hot - i love the south! i know it's not as humid as hotlanta.

MissingLink said...

Nanc,

Did I really say that? ;-)

Thanks for your link and kind words.

I've just started my day down under.
Very nice surprise!

American Crusader said...

My good friends, for the second time in history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it's a peace for our time...
Now go home and get a good night's sleep.

nanc said...

a.c. - it seems people are sleeping everywhere - makes it hard for the rest of us who can't seem to close our eyes.

linkster - i'm sure you would say that if you'd thought of it first!

i see you may have had a tsunami warning in the southern hemisphere today - eeeeek! G-d's talkin' nobody's listening...well except for a very select few of us.

nanc said...

a.c. - that sounds like something chamberlain would have said - am i wrong? don't have time to check it out now.

nanc said...

for some adolf spew:

http://www.worldwar-2.net/famous-quotes/famous-quotes-index.htm

i typed in neville chamberlain quotes and that is what came up!

Always On Watch said...

I bequeath this Disrael quote to Nanc:

The wisdom of the wise and the experience of the ages are perpetuated by quotations.

Great idea for a first posting!

Always On Watch said...

FJ,
I had to smile at this choice of one of your adopted Disrael quotes, especially the last part of the quotations below:

Be amusing: never tell unkind stories; above all, never tell long ones.

Of course, I don't mind your "long" stories. :)

Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
I'm diligent, all right. But I don't see the fortune rolling in, especially if one interprets fortune as wealth. Of course, I'm not getting paid for my diligence, particularly as that diligence applies to blogging.

But if one interprets good fortune as finding friends, I'm rich!

This particular Disraeli quote is something in which I very strongly believe:

"upon the education of the people of this country, the fate of this country depends."

Anonymous said...

I refuse to have to post any further disclaimers when it comes to any relative comparison of objects in three dimensional space... or time.

Now let me tell a story about the "absolute" big. Now, picture in your mind something....bigger!

LOL!!!!!!

-FJ

Anonymous said...

;-P

-FJ

MissingLink said...

Nanc,
I almost said it once but then I realized I wouldn't be original.

except for a very select few of us.

We need to scream.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

"Ow, bloddy hell!" - Benjamin Disraeli, May 3, 1875, shortly after cutting himself while shaving

Warren said...

Great Post, Nanc!

For me, posting is going to be between light to none this evening.

I have several things I have to do.

Mad Zionist said...

Nanc, when Disraeli served as PM in England Jews were still banned from holding office. Disraeli was not Jewish, he was Christian. His family had converted during the Spanish Inquisition.

nanc said...

i know that madze - this post was about how timely the quotes would be in this day and age.

Mad Zionist said...

OK :)

nanc said...

thank you warren, i know how busy you are - so i won't even tell you about mine! except for in the e-mail i just sent you.

beamish made it look like i was talking to myself at his first post! there was another post of brownieboy's above my first shot at him.

nanc said...

i.w. - precisely! so history didn't change. makes you ponder the impossible, like evolution.

nanc said...

beamish - i wish i'd known about that one! i'd have given it to my husband - after last weekend when he came out of the bathroom after shaving with little t.p. dots stuck all over his face.

nanc said...

thank you aow - i only hang out with people wealthy people - money is but a utility anyway - i always say, "get rid of it while it can still be gotten rid of!"

nanc said...

linkster - i'll come down under and have a howl with you later!

nanc said...

warren - tomorrow is the national day of prayer - i guess i can be o.t. on my own post if i feel like it!

Mad Zionist said...

I've got you linked up to my site, Aunt Nanc.

nanc said...

thank you oh surly-type father of my nephew or niece named "babynanc". shall we have a single malt on that? i'll have a chocolate/strawberry.

nanc said...

p.s. madze - at least i won't have to go so far to link here! i like playing the links even in bad weather. yeah!

Freedomnow said...

Hey Nanc,

Thats a creative post.

Thanks for visiting me during my down time. Now I am back in action!!!

You are the muse for all of us...

Jeff Bargholz said...

Disraeli was an amazing guy. You have to be talented to become PM in an anti-Semitic country like Britain. He was good for the country.

Boy, could they use a guy like him now.

Jeff Bargholz said...

MZ,

Jews don't consider Disraeli to have been Jewish, but Brits always have. He's still described that way in writing. Because he was Christian, he was able to be PM, but he was still considered a Jew by the British. The British are so anti-Semitic that during WWII, they rounded up Jewish citizens and immigrants and sent them to concentration camps in Australia. It's amazing that the guy ever became PM, because anti-Semitism was even stronger in the Victorian Age.

Nowadays it's back with a vengeance, but except for the muslims, most anti-Semites won't admit that they're anti-Semites. Not yet. They will, soon enough.

He was descended from apostates, but he was a damn good PM. He had his faults of course - we all do - but he was an admirable man.

Warren said...

Nanc, you should have noticed by now, being on topic has never been one of my strong suits. Let the conversation go where it may!

;^)

nanc said...

now warren, you know i ALWAYS try to stay on topic! ha!

nanc said...

thank you fern, j.b. - you're both part of my gig except for the vegetarianism and potty mouth, well except for yesterday...oooohhhhhh!

nanc said...

and if this works out, from rightminded (my r.m.) the blog snob(posted at autonomist):

"Oh, nanc, I almost forgot.

As riveting as it was, please
swear that you and J.B. are not
going to ever collaborate, and
have a microwave repair feature on
your new web-log.

P.S. Get some of these
deals [smily faces]for your web-log. I like stuff like that.
Maybe some [more smily faces]
different noises. You know like
the Bronx cheer, or a kazoo.

Rightminded"

i've been trying to get him out of the 'hood for months - i've run out of lures. stubborn old coot.

Freedomnow said...

Bargholz said, "You have to be talented to become PM in an anti-Semitic country like Britain"

Not to belittle the almighty Bargholz, but what 19th century country wasnt anti-Semitic?

Nanc,

If you dont like my vegetarian tendencies then have a steak. You are free to do as you like.

All I ask is that you dont eat anyone that I know...

Cheers

beakerkin said...

Interesting to see Nanc has brough in new comenters on the blog.

Tommorows guest of honor for the cyber roast will be Warren. I guess Nanc will have to tell Mr Beamish to order up some roadkill.

nanc said...

i believe i've warned you brownie. did you not believe me? i did not invite you, but i'm going to leave your vile little post up for warren to see.

if plucky were here, he would outshine you by miles - if you want to be a good troll take a lesson from him.

i like the way you wait until everybody is at work before you come in dropping your guano literature. coward.

nanc said...

fern - you know i appreciate your every facet and so you know - i only eat meat approximately two days per week as roadkill allows! otherwise i kill and eat loads of salad, pasta and rice.

beakerkin said...

Maybe Mr Beamish will come up with theme music for the poster abortion bit followed by a vacum cleaner and a scream.

Warren said...

Well, Shit Stain, since you either refuse to learn or are incapable of learning, I guess you have earned some "special" attention.

And you ain't going to like it!

Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
Email me. What's going on???

Anonymous said...

tmw,

I may have a job for you and your frying pan... Do you have rates?

-FJ

FLORIAN said...

Hi Nanc! So is John Jihad Brownbeard the new uptown clown? I mistakenly went to his blog to see his vile....not one comment to his little childish hate. LOL. Foolishly I had to leave my 2 cents...oh well never again.
Hope your day went well even though you had to work!

nanc said...

warren - missive on the way - give me a few.

nanc said...

flo - much worse than you think.

Warren said...

John Brown said...

" Sambo Warren the Injun Killer,

You can't do a damn thing.

7:12 PM"


We will see. :^)

nanc said...

warren - please disregard my first e-mail regarding the subject at hand and see me second e-mail if you have the time. thanks ahead of time.

nanc said...

warren - what's funny is that after a post is erased - i makes the person responding to it look like a very fine idiot! thankx!

nanc said...

jeez - the misspellings "i me my"!

Always On Watch said...

Warren,
John Brown said...

" Sambo Warren the Injun Killer,

You can't do a damn thing.

7:12 PM"

We will see. :^)


Uh, oh! The Axeman cometh!

FLORIAN said...

John Brown is worse than uppy and socrates then? OUCH! Is he banned yet?

Warren said...

No Florian, I'd have to use a holoscan type comment section to ban him and I hate to be forced into anything.

He banned in effect because anything he says get deleted.

MissingLink said...

So much to do and so little time.
Nanc,
Where's your next post?

nanc said...

oh linkster - this is no time to be impatient - i have so many ideas battling it out...i'm enjoying everybody elses' blogs for a day or two.

don't worry though - i'm thinking in epic terms! yeah - nanc b. demille type epic.

nanc said...

warren - i see you're going to do a wrap-up at beak's - WONDY! i'll have to store up.

flo - the poopstain is like a parrot who needs a very dark cover put over his cage for extended periods of time, like say 24/7!

themerrywidow said...

FJ- For friends I charge less! After all, one must encourage the proper people, one's own circle as it were! keep the money local!
For upward swats to the side of the head; $10 for my biggest griddle, $2.50 for the small. Flat out whacks to the back of the head;$15?largest, $5/smallest, Overhead smackdowns;$50/largest,$25/smallest. Sliding scale for inbetween sizes. Rates include extra asprin needed for arthritis! Travel expenses extra, but I don't demand 5 star accomidations, Holiday Inn is acceptable. Group discounts if subjects are closely packed, otherwise buy 3 and get one free!
Does that help?

tmw

the merry widow said...

FJ- Just ask for Skillet O'Malley!

tmw

the merry widow said...

FJ-Rates also include insurance against damage to said skillets, I love my babies!

tskilletmo'malleyw

Freedomnow said...

Nanc,

I am disappointed to hear that you slaughter innocent salads.

Hopefully, your conscience will bring you back to the light.

nanc said...

you upset brownie that i didn't put a disraeli quote in for you?

sorry, you are everything disraeli spoke against. thanks for proving him right.

Freedomnow said...

Warren,

About Brownie boy. Careful about feeding the trolls. That is exactly what he wants.

Bensilly said...

hiya-
Just thot i`d pop in and say........

I guess I forgot what I was gonna say,K?

nanc said...

fern - how'd you get in over me? let's not talk about WHO slaughters the salads, as long as they remain slain while i'm eating them!

Freedomnow said...

Warren,

About Brownie Boy. Careful about feeding the trolls. That is exactly what he wants. Let him suffer in obscurity.

Freedomnow said...

You salad killer

nanc said...

that's quite alright, bens - i'm just glad you stopped by.

nanc said...

you don't have to feed trolls, fern because they all appear to be a bunch of crankster gangsters. no eat, no sleep, teeth rotting out of their heads...

nanc said...

watch your mouth brownie - i'm here keeping both eyes on you! of course i'll have to wash them out with soap by the end of the day. there are only two people allowed to curse here and only because they curse in context - you aren't one of them.

nanc said...

well now, that would require some speech therapy.

nanc said...

i'm having too much fun at beak's to worry about you right now - have fun!

nanc said...

and right backatcha brownie - it may give you a headache!

Bensilly said...

nanc-
I was going to say, disraili gears although a song was also attributed to a sprocket/gear design for bicycles. Was that "Bens" as well?

Good luck w/the trolls.
SpeechBattery.

nanc said...

well, you've stumped me, ben and google as well! i don't know who invented that gear, but i do remember my younger brother having fits over that thing on his bicycles when we were young - i think that's what it was called...with age comes forgetfulness...now what was i saying?

nanc said...

II = how many troll abortions i've personally performed.

beakerkin said...

The pace of the troll abortions is
picking up. Good thing Drummaster insisted on an Industrial Shop Vac.

FLORIAN said...

Evening Nanc! Beaker and Warren. I see the troll has returned. How about that Zarqarwi? The idiot cannot even figure out how to use a gun--and he's wearing American New Balance sneaks? He's such a clown for a terrorist! I'm shakin'....

nanc said...

i would be a very good terrorizer - ask anybody!

the merry widow said...

Nanc- Some people have the knack, some should never leave home without thier mommies! You, yes I believe you do have the knack! Zarqawi, where'd his mom go?

tmw

nanc said...

tmw - as long as i don't have the knick to go along with it because there's no thing i hate more than knick-knacks in my home!

MissingLink said...

Regarding trolls - Freedomnow is right.
The are the street storm troopers.
They do not want to talk they want to destroy your forum.
For a while you get a lot of comments but when you count them it turns out most of them are from your trolls.
Idiotic, vile, repetitive crap.
Soon, all the "shy" folks who need a flag pole to gather around will go away or pop in and then go.

nanc said...

of course, you and fern are spot on, linkster, but sometimes when people see what's up against them, it's far easier to keep everything in perspective - ugliness is ugliness and we cannot shield ourselves from all of it - oh, great - now it looks like i've been talking to myself all day - AGAIN!

WARRRRRRRRRENNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!

Warren said...

I'm here Nanc, Just working on that little problem we have.

I'm crusin over to Beaks now.

nanc said...

well, i see that you like makin' me look like i'm talkin' to myself!

nanc said...

who's the contrary now?

the merry widow said...

I guess he's been hanging around you too long!

tmw

Warren said...

Nanc, If you meant for me to leave them up, I'm sorry. Its just that he's such a bore.

I started deleting them as soon as I saw them without bothering to read them.

Were they sexual advances toward you or me?

nanc said...

it seems he's hot after you, warren. must be the eyes! yes, i believe there was one sexual advance toward you and the same old stuff towards me. yes, he is a bore. of course, i think he's hot after a.c. too - so i think you've got some competition!

Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
II = how many troll abortions i've personally performed.

Is that eleven or two? Looks like a Roman numeral 2.

nanc said...

that would be two, aow, and i don't feel very good about it. hope i don't suffer psychologically for it later on in life. wait a minute - i am later on in life...

nanc said...

i forgot something - good morning warren! remember the "chick magnet" incident? i got to thinking about brownie's crush on you and wondering what kind of magnet to call you now!

the merry widow said...

Electric, because it flips from AC to DC. Apologies a.c.! Good grief, the're coming out of the woodwork and the closet! Where're my skillets? Nahhhh, don't want to risk them on the floors, I'll get some rat poison!
Good morning to the rest(best) of ya'll!

tmw

Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
that would be two, aow, and i don't feel very good about it. hope i don't suffer psychologically for it later on in life. wait a minute - i am later on in life...

Of course, that's assuming that JB is any kind of life form. As often as he posts the same old thing, he just might be some kind of cyber robot.

nanc said...

i do actually feel pity for him, aow. like i would any wounded thing. and if i were anywhere near him - i would have no aversion to putting him out of ours and his misery. i've had to take a few animals out before.

and, i'm sure this post will make it into his hate posts. as you all know, i have NO hate in me for another human - wrongheaded ideals are what i hate. hatred of people kills the hater from the inside out. that was the intent of hatred.

VerityINK said...

WARREN AND NANC--I have taken the liberty of posting your blog name/link on my sidebar under 'Blog Friends--hope this is OK. If it is, and you want your name different, let me know!

I have just entered the world of html--6 days ago, I had NO idea what it was! I managed to put up a pic, added links (my template didn't have a place for them) and added Blog Friends and will a Blog Roll.

Warren, I need help with a site meter and post title permalinks with the little icon my template has. I found where it's at in default temp (I think), but can't seem to enable it. I need REALLY simple directions--and please visit my blog! ;-)

The DU d'RAT Review


DONAL as VerityINK

nanc said...

well, thank you donal - we appreciate the business. i imagine warren is working today - it seems he only has a chance to sleep then! just fooling - he has to be one of the busiest people in the www.

when warren has the time - he is the very best help you could ask for. now, enough buttkissing!

and of course, you know i'll be visiting! you, who taught me that it's all in the 'tude.

the merry widow said...

Nanc, as far as jb goes, chlorox is excellent when combatting mildew! Scrub and rinse.

tmw

nanc said...

just checking something.

FLORIAN said...

I don't see it Nanc!

FLORIAN said...

Ok Nanc. I have my new avatar. Thanks for helping me out! You're the best!!!

nanc said...

no sir! everything i've learned about this whole blogging thing i got from "the man" - our warren. now, let's see if my avatar is back.

FLORIAN said...

Hi Nanc/Warren. I just saw United 93. GO SEE IT!! Read my review on my page. BTW I must have gotten underneath Hank Snow's skin at FPM. He left a nice troll dropping to sweep up about me, donal and beaker.

nanc said...

warren - thank you for linking to donal and flo. you are still as everybody says, "the best"!

good night everybody!

the merry widow said...

Warren- Have an idea for an avatar, contact me by e-mail and I will elaborate. May not be smart to show my ammo!

tmw
P.S. You're a terrific brother and your family must be very blessed to have you!

Warren said...

TMW, I don't have your Email addy.

I'll get it from AOW.

Don't post yours here!

Its not a good idea for me to post mine because of the troll. It provides opertunities for stalkers.

the merry widow said...

That's what I figured oh wise one! Interesting things in the works, I think some things that have percolated for years are starting to snap into place! Exciting times ahead, scarey but I wouldn't sit this out for the world!
Thanks!!!!!

tmw

Warren said...

TMW, do you know the ancient Chinese curse;
"May you live in interesting times"?

We have been cursed!!!

LOL

the merry widow said...

Warren- I just posted over at Beaker's 2nd post, troll abortion alert!
As the time becomes shorter, you know who is causing more havoc! No surprise, my Momma would've washed out some mouths with laundry soap around now, with a brass bristle brush! If one of mine used something half so bad they'd be unbraiding thier fingers and toes sometime next year!
As for "the curse", we've been living under one for around 6,000 yrs.! That's why we need each other to survive. You take precautions because we aren't stupid, but we dob't get our knickers in a knot either!

tmw

the merry widow said...

dob't=don't
really with it.

tmw

Elmer's Brother said...

I know how Lyle Lovett felt when he married Julia Roberts.


This was great.

F.B. Jones said...

All ya need is love. All ya need is love, love, love is all you need.

And Guns lots of big freak'n guns.

MissingLink said...

I heard that love hurts.
So what is?

MissingLink said...

..it?

I think I have to hit the sack.
Good night

nanc said...

holy cow - i thought this was a dead thread! my apologies for not paying more attention...

F.B. Jones said...

It is now!!!!DEAD THREAD!!!!!

nanc said...

now it's not! oh, this power i wield is more than i can handle...

F.B. Jones said...

DEADDEADDEADDEADDEADDEAD

F.B. Jones said...

I am THE LAW

F.B. Jones said...

This is what I am talking about!!!!!!!!!!!

Warren said...

Au contraire, mon frair.

:^)

Warren said...

That's french for, Nanc is going to come in here and kick your butt!

LOL

F.B. Jones said...

Damn! You win. I can see I am not a powerful as I thought. I surrender.

Anonymous said...

sneakayyyyyyyy....

nanc said...

that was me making an anonymous statement.

F.B. Jones said...

Ok, your turn to kill this post. I give up.

nanc said...

nah - you don't!

unaha-closp said...

You cannot fight against the future. Time is on our side.

William E. Gladstone

Warren said...

Hi UC, long time no-see!

How you doing?

unaha-closp said...

lurkin - usually

good to see you going full steam ahead

Warren said...

Yea, I have a partner now. Traffic is way up..

Take care.