first, i must apologize to madze for my tardiness in getting this post up - many extenuating circumcis...er...uh, circumstances...
our madze baby had his a coming out party ! he had the snip of a lifetime. i've asked madzionist to please present the winners of the baby shower party. here are his picks (he picked himself in a couple of categories!).
madzionist favorite table beer:
As Elbro said: Genessee Cream Ale
funniest delivery room story:
Gramma Z sent us a plant that had a "Feel Better" message and band-aids on the design. When we stopped laughing and told her about it she died of embarassment and had a new bouquet sent.
funniest labor room story:
Not a place where funny things happen.
the name game:
Baby Elbro
mama z's waistline:
whatever elbro said.
gift registry information:
Gift Registry
last but not least, a madze delivery story:
Not a delivery story, but the story of the week has been nonstop frenzy. Birth on Thursday, Shalom Zachor party Friday night, Bris on Thursday, family all in from out of town, Shabbos, etc...it's been overwhelming. No time to blog or to do anything but entertain and take care of the house and family.
a note from nanc:
i leave it to madze to disclose any personal information to those he wishes and those who inquire.
i'm off to shop for baby z-2!
p.s. it is perfectly clear that elbro has won this contest!
If Elbro keeps winning these contests I'm gonna go into the storm door bizness.
ReplyDeleteNanc- The site is not allowing me to fill my cart, it ain't me, it's the site! Will try later!
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it's working for me, tmw...hmmm...
ReplyDeletedoes this mean I have to send the trail mix back???
ReplyDeleteMZ
ReplyDeleteDo not tell the little guy this is going to hurt me more than you.
if you do, elbro - it could mean the end for you if there are no macedonian nutz!
ReplyDeletesoooooooo, beak - do you remember yours?
ReplyDeletewhile I was in the service one of my good friends had a baby boy at the naval hospital. He and his wife wanted their boy circumcised...but...before that could be done they had to go through "counseling". So there is a break in their counseling and while he was standing near a geedunk (vending) machine these two nurse come in and pretend he isn't there. They were having this conversation and they were railing against parents who were having their boys circumcised..."I can't believe parents could be so cruel"...."It'll scar them for life"....to which my friend replied...
ReplyDelete"I don't remember it."
oh there'll be nuts. I don't know about the rest of it.
ReplyDeleteI'll get Jackie Chiles, my lawyer right on this.
ReplyDeleteelbro - i had a male friend who had his done at the age of forty for health reasons and he wished horrid things on everyone around him for a long time after...hmmm...eight days or forty years old...?
ReplyDeleteI know a rabbi who's wife sewed a wallet out of all his bris tips. Whenever the rabbi went going on vacation, all he had to do was take out his wallet, rub it and say "wallah!", and he never needed to buy a suitcase.
ReplyDeleteFARMER!
ReplyDeletethat's alot of bris - cut!
No Nanc I have no memory. Allegedly,
ReplyDeletemy severed part was used to make a wallet that grows every time it is placed in a pocket.
...not as many as the stereotype would have you believe.... ;-)
ReplyDeletecome on FJ that sounds like a lot of hooooey
ReplyDeleteyou know a rabbi? come on.
Able sacrificed his best... It was Cain who didn't distinguish.
ReplyDeleteOoooooooooohhhh! Now I feel better about picking on Rob!
ReplyDeleteYe Gads!
tmw
okay, you caught me eb. The knowing a rabbi part was made up. So was the suitcase thing. The rabbi's wallet really turned into a ski-tote.
ReplyDeleteHe was a Polish rabbi.
ReplyDeleteI'm so gullible, I really believed the suitcase part. Call me naive.
ReplyDeleteokay, laurel and hardly - time to talk matzo!
ReplyDeleteMy sister freaked out about the bris before hand. She has a boy just 4 months older, but she, being completely secular, thinks the old fashioned moyle and bris thing is antiquated and that hospitals and doctors are the only way to go.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the idea of a party with lots of brunch food, wine and scotch for a circumcision was baffling for her - and most of my family. Of course, once they saw how nicely it all went they felt differently, but it is really a microcosm of how secular views the religious, I think.
Non-observant Jews who don't celebrate Passover should be forced to undergo another bris...
ReplyDelete...it would give 'em something to be thankful for.
ReplyDeleteSymbolically, I find the concept of a bris very appropriate.
ReplyDeleteA circumcised heart is what I'm after.
ReplyDeleteI'm getting out of here before warren shows up with his hatchet... I've already shared enough of my strange ideas... and I don't want him deciding it's time to practice his axe-handling skills. Oy-vey!
ReplyDeleteWaiiit a minute... We're talking about a bris and Warren's hatchet comes up?
ReplyDeleteYIKES!
Jeff
ReplyDeleteIn Islam it is done at thirteen. Being awake for that experience must not be pleasant.
At 13 it'd tend to make any male cranky, probably for the rest of their lives! That may explain them!
ReplyDeleteWhen my son was born and I told them to circumcise him, it didn't get done right away. I had a c-section and the morning they were going to discharge me, someone finally told the doctor! Poor little mite didn't get released until 7pm! Cause he wouldn't pee! If they had done it when I had him, he would have been released with me! OY! My Dad was yelling at me for having him circumcised, but I stood my ground, helped that my late was too! I kept telling those nurses it was for his health, and they kept telling that was a lie. Guess that explains WHY he wasn't done till I was ready to leave the hospital, they hoped I'd cave!
tmw
As Herodotus wrote about the Egyptians in 440 BC...
ReplyDeleteThey practise circumcision for the sake of cleanliness, considering it better to be cleanly than comely.
Okay eb, I'll bite. What for?
ReplyDeleteFARMER?
ReplyDeletewhat have i said about no biting?!?
It's in reference to the New Testament concept that Christians have a circumcised heart symbolic of their relationship with G_d. Like the actual circumcision represented to Jews their relationship with the Almighty.
ReplyDeletea stripping away of our old sinful self and a dedication to God in our hearts.
nanc, I promised eb I wouldn't spit anymore, not that I wouldn't bite.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the info eb. Is the circumcision of the heart primarily meant for older converts? It would seem somewhat unnecessary for newborns given the baptismal rite and the fact that a newborn isn't likely to have acquired much sin requiring circumcision of the heart?
I mean, I could see how St. Augustine could see it that way as an older convert...
It's mentioned in the old testament as well sorry
ReplyDeleteI have never put much thought into the age of accountability question if that is what you're asking fj but I suppose that by some people's definition knowing it's a symbol of the cutting of the ties to this world that it wouldn't apply to children who aren't able to make that decision
it's not an actual rite or ceremony as you may well know
maybe you're just joshing me and I don't realize it
Jeff,
ReplyDeleteI got to know quite a few nurses when I worked in a liquor store.
Nope. I wasn't joshin' elbro. It's a new variation on an old concept for me and I'm trying to get a feel for it. It kinda implies a trimming away of spirit... hopefully a "bad" spirit or memory/desire whereas a circumcision is a trimming away of flesh that I wouldn't necessary characterize as "bad" so much as potentially un-healthful and temptation prone (sensitivity) in the "future".
ReplyDeleteTo circumcise the flesh is relatively easy to accomplish, a physical metamorphosis of spirit would be much more difficult (ie - the Sun Dance) and a spiritual circumcision or excision could perhaps only be maintained through an absolute commitment to virtuous behavior... but I can't see how one could avoid sinning in spirit and keep one's actions in check without a venial/spiritual reminder to keep one from acting/lapsing into sin. It's one of those philosophical "generation from opposites" things.
I see it now and understand it. My bad. Thanks elbro. I think it boils down to the way I raise my kids and the standards I set for them, which gets programmed into their ego-ideals and serves as a repressive force in mind...a taboo, like against incest. One can't even think of it without explicit effort.
ReplyDelete..the literal raising of a child in a Christian home best accomplishes the feat. (?)
ReplyDelete...or Jewish. Sorry, I didn't mean to exclude.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Baby-Z will get that circumcision of the heart, elbro.
Madze, you & Mrs. Z have a very difficult job ahead of you, and I wish you well.
...especially when Baby-Z claims in adolescence that her upraising "scarred her for life!"
ReplyDelete...for which they should reply, "Yes, thank G_D!"
I pity the child who's parents will do anything to prevent their children from experiencing any suffering or pain.
ReplyDeleteBest start them out young.
erratum: his upraising.
ReplyDeleteI guess you can tell I was thinking about my own daughter at the time I wrote it...
Dr. Freud, your slip is showing...
ReplyDeleteI have four boys who have all come under the knife. None of the nurses or doctors we encountered ever complained about the procedure.
ReplyDeleteI guess in my part of the country it is a little more accepted as the way things are.
whereas circumcision of the flesh is an outward appearance of your connection to G_d, a circumcision of the heart a sign of the inward connection
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ReplyDeleteyou are not welcome here, brownie - sorry - invited guests only!
ReplyDeletewarren - please turn on comment moderation while i delete this fool's posts! thanx!
ReplyDeleteOy, look what the rats dragged in! Can we scrub the stain out of the carpet? Or will we have to get new?
ReplyDeleteAnd that particular variation, very provocative to say the least! Looking to get himself arrested? Or investigated?
tmw
oops! i forgot the most important post to delete, but think i'll leave it there for madze to see.
ReplyDeletenot biting, brownie - NO! i will not visit your blog for a quarter!
I just banned the idiot at my site.
ReplyDeletethank you, warren.
ReplyDeletethank you, madze.
when will he learn?
think i'll take a nap...
ReplyDeleteno weazlpoopstains here...
perhaps we should call the fire department when Stain comes around
ReplyDeleteWell Well Well.....out from his exile returns the pro-terrorist and communist sympathizer!!! Life must be boring in those "southern" countries.
ReplyDeleteI guess it's time to start sharpenin' the ole tommyhawks...
ReplyDelete...said the hedgehog to the fox.
ReplyDeleteFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHey, Nanccan practice her golf swing, and I can exeecise my arms swinging iron skillets. A healthy workout for all!
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Just got here!
ReplyDeleteRepetitive behavior is often a sign of mental illness.
Hey, it's been a few months since we've dealt with the stain. Got out of the clink, or the psych ward, did he?
ReplyDeleteOne of the joys of Beta Blogs is deletion is a breeze. Browns comments never make it onto my site. It is fairly obvious whom is obsessed with whom.
ReplyDeleteThey even tire of his act on Renegade Eye.
sorry weaz - i'll not have you harrassing my guests at this party.
ReplyDeleteOne thing for sure, he's definately obsessed with Beak!
ReplyDeleteI think beak has learned all about repelling boarders...
ReplyDeleteyeah - how come beak's the only one who has a great beta-blog thing going? has anybody else been able to get one up and going? no they have not. seems to me, working for dhs has its advantages. nuff said. beak's a dhs insider. we are his minions...or bunions...whatever...
ReplyDeleteIt's a brave new world in which only alpha's know how to properly use beta's. It is almost the year 104 AF (After Ford), after all!
ReplyDeleteAnd my mother was only a beta+
-John (Savage)
ps- Let's take some Soma and go to a feelie sometime.
& beak works for the Department of Hatchery's and Conditioning (DHC). So you'd better not tweak him off or he's likely to overfeed the next batch of decanted hatchlings.
ReplyDeleteOh Lordy, FJ, that was a very disheartening book! Everyone so brainwashed and silly! Those in the know controlling all input, sounds like certain elements in our world today! Both the brainwashed and the manipulators!
ReplyDeletetmw
Indeed. Sounds like something that needs tidying up...
ReplyDeleteFJ,
ReplyDeleteAs you know, embryonic stem cell Bokanovskification is still theoretical.